I accidentally said "3500 feet per second", but I meant to say "3500 foot/pounds of energy" when talking about the .45-70...sorry for the mistake.  Just like "speed doesn't have a bad day", HITTING ENERGY doesn't have a bad day either.  The .308, 12 ga. 1 oz slugs, and .45-70 can provide advantages in defensive scenarios, especially with assailants wearing body armor.  Video about Tucker's prediction about hot war with Russia:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdWD4AkyRVQ   Video of how a bullet proof vest handles .45-70 rounds:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHBRNu6PdxI