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"There is much more to reality than our perceptual organs tell us." Mark Gober, author of An End to Upside Down Thinking, An End to Upside Down Living, An End to Upside Down Liberty, and most recently An End to Upside Down Contact, speaks with John L. Petersen about how he began seeing, and thinking, outside of the box.

Mark will join us for TransitionTALKS on November 19th, in Berkeley Springs, WV. You can too -- either in person or via livestream! Get tickets and more info here: https://arlingtoninstitute.org/transitiontalks/upcoming-events/